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As Salaamu ' alaykum

May this Hadeeth, be a stern reminder for the sisters. The Hadeeth, is a long one, and I will type only the part where he, Sallallaahu 'Alayhi wa Salam informed his companions RadiyAllaahu 'Anhum of what he saw :

"....Then I saw the Fire (Hell), and I have never before, seen such a horrible sight as that.And I saw that the majority of it's dwellers were women." The people asked, "O Allaah's Apostle! What is the reason for that?" He replied, "Because of their ungratefulness." The people asked, "Did they disbelieved in Allaah (were they ungrateful to Allaah)?" He replied, "They were not thankful to their husbands and are ungrateful for the favours done to them.Even if you do good to one of them all your life, when she sees some harshness from you, she will say, "I have never seen any good from you."

(Saheeh Al-Bukhaaree Kitaab An-Nikaah Hadeeth No.125)

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Well JohnDoe, u will be surprised to find that I am a woman and admit unfortunately I see my sisters doing it. Jazkum Allah khairan Abu Dujanah for reminding us.

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Can someone explain that Hadeeth a little better? Are women in hell because they got upset at their husbands for being harsh? If a husband is cruel and his wife isn't greatful will she go to hell?

P.S. I hope you all had a wonderful Ramadan!!!

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To the best of my knowledge: There are more women in hell than men for the reason that we are very prone to gossip (you can't deny this) and even 'enhance' the gossip. This is slandering the name of another person.

As for being ungrateful to our husbands, we sometimes fall into the trap of expecting more and more from them, and don't take the time to acknowledge the many things they do for us. They come home from work, and maybe we are complaining about how hard our day has been, and ignore that he is also looking for support and comfort.

If you can define what kind of cruel you are speaking of that would be helpful.

Nice to see you again by the way!

~Jennifer

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Bismillah

I also remember the hadith that speaks of the times to come when women will out number men 50 to 1. You can see the trend of more women to men now. I am not saying that this is THE reason but something to remember. (I would not refute a hadith.) More women in general will also mean more women in hell. Allah Knows Best. Astaghfirullah.

As salam alaikum

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http://www.unfpa.org/swp/2000/english/figures/

Figure 7

This is the best I could do without sitting on the computer all day. Servers were either slow or inadequate, like only giving percentages for a single county. If it is that important,could you look it up and share with us?

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I have no problem with being wrong.

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No. Islam addresses what Jesus will say on Judgement Day.

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Originally posted by MichelleSeeking

Can someone explain that Hadeeth a little better? Are women in hell because they got upset at their husbands for being harsh? If a husband is cruel and his wife isn't greatful will she go to hell?

P.S. I hope you all had a wonderful Ramadan!!!

as salam a`alaman itabalhoda

Long time no see Michelle, Alhamdulelah we all had a wonderful Ramadan

May Allah allow me the proper expression to present this point.

Let me further explain this hadeeth simply because it is important

The hadeeth is not referring to an abused wife who may practice patient and earn a major reward for taking what she is enduring in her marriage and not complaining just because it is all a test from Allah. But the hadeeth is referring to a normal marriage where the couple is leading a normal life with ups and downs, when the husband is doing his best to maintain the family. And at the slitest mistake, she totally forgets all the nice moments and days, totally denies him all his gentle gestures and just go on complaining to people that she never saw even one good day with him. Now this is exactly what the hadeeth is talking about Michelle. Michelle, according to a hadeeth (Prophet's sayings) we are commanded to take 70 execuses to our bothers and sisters before being upset with them. Certainly the husband is entitled for this. But women fail to comply with this hadeeth, that is why. And actually by the Prophet (SAW) informing us about this, he warned us in order to try and avoid this attitude. If one fails to observe the rule she can only blame herself. Hope I explained the point well enough to benefit all. May Allah accept what is correct which is from Him and overlooks any mistakes and provide u with the correct knowledge.

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Sobhan Allah JohnDoe, u r just being totally inobjective. U just can not beleive this is true, u only aim to win an argument. Why dont u try to be more objective in your replies, or u enjoy having your name shown?????????Try to look into replies with a more indepth manner and ponder upon them rather than rushing to reply........smile.gif

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Quote- JohnDoe

The population can be tinkered with in a number of ways. For example, in either India or Pakistan (can't remember which) there is now a practice where the sex of an unborn child is determined and if the child is female, the feotus is aborted.

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No this kinda thing MOST in India......Muslim countries do it but not that THAT extent !

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Originally posted by JohnDoe

What are you on about ?  

Dan stated the population was heading towards a 50-1 increase in women. There is no evidence of this that I can find on the web. If you have a resource to support this then please paste it.

I will support this. 50-1? Impossible. The World population is, and always has been, almost a 1-1 split with a slight angle towards women. Even a country as large as China cannot mess up the averages of the rest of the world (that does not practice selective child raising on a large scale)

Law of averages says that there is 1:2 chance of having a male or female (really slightly less when you count the 1:150,000 chance of having a hermephrodite). Without an outside influence, this will not change. Our enviroment still equally supports a even split of male and female briths, with a slightly longer lifespan (measuered in years, not decades for everywhere I just looked) for women.

But alas, I degress. On a short, or long, enough timeline, any statistic can be proven.

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Originally posted by JohnDoe

What are you on about ?  

Dan stated the population was heading towards a 50-1 increase in women. There is no evidence of this that I can find on the web. If you have a resource to support this then please paste it.

John what I mean is that u tend to leave the core of interest as usual and just focus on side matters. The whole thread is a warning for us women to hold our tongues in order to stay away from trouble. U go into an argument with Dan about an explanation he gave. May be he was wrong about it. Well u have other explanations. What I mean is that u do have much effort and keeness to research but u devote it to prove Islam is wrong. U know why, I think this is the second time I tell u this. because deep inside u know it is right.

Try to read the posts and make the research without a premature judgement how about thattttt.

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Bismillah

We can put the issue with what I said to rest by my saying, "I was wrong." No problem. But like what was stated before, can we get back to what the post was actually about now?

I can digress with what is being said the majority of times by focusing on grammatical and spelling errors. Is this the place for that? No. Let us try to focus. Has anyone ever written a paper in school? In this paper did one ever go off of the topic and have the teacher address this problem? This seems to be a very big issue with many people on this board.

If you want to address something that was minorly brought up in one post, then START A NEW THREAD. It is not hard to do unless your only purpose is to just win an arguement or prove oneself correct. We have already discussed this issue many times though. So let us see if people actually reflect upon the topics and what others have to say or if we are here to debate solely to debate. If this is the case I know of a site where people LOVE to do this. Sister Jennifer can tell you about it, right sis? wink.gif

In closing, just so everyone remembers, Dan is wrong and admits it. Now back to the topic.... Insha'Allah....

Peace.

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Originally posted by Dan

Bismillah

I can digress with what is being said the majority of times by focusing on grammatical and spelling errors.  Is this the place for that?  No.  Let us try to focus.  Has anyone ever written a paper in school?  In this paper did one ever go off of the topic and have the teacher address this problem?  This seems to be a very big issue with many people on this board.

If you want to address something that was minorly brought up in one post, then START A NEW THREAD.  Peace.

excellent brother excellent

hope we all follow this now

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subhanallah brother dan....

may all users in this forum develop such an approach to these discussion forums

ameen

Bismillah

We can put the issue with what I said to rest by my saying, \"I was wrong.\" No problem. But like what was stated before, can we get back to what the post was actually about now?

I can digress with what is being said the majority of times by focusing on grammatical and spelling errors. Is this the place for that? No. Let us try to focus. Has anyone ever written a paper in school? In this paper did one ever go off of the topic and have the teacher address this problem? This seems to be a very big issue with many people on this board.

If you want to address something that was minorly brought up in one post, then START A NEW THREAD. It is not hard to do unless your only purpose is to just win an arguement or prove oneself correct. We have already discussed this issue many times though. So let us see if people actually reflect upon the topics and what others have to say or if we are here to debate solely to debate. If this is the case I know of a site where people LOVE to do this. Sister Jennifer can tell you about it, right sis?  

In closing, just so everyone remembers, Dan is wrong and admits it. Now back to the topic.... Insha'Allah....

Peace.

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