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Salaam alaikum

Ban on head scarves in france.

Muslims sisters campaign in Knightsbridge London today.

If i new before i would have been there to support them.

SORRY IF THIS HAS BEEN POSTED ANYWHERE ELSE ON THIS FORUM I HAVENT TIME TO CHECK.

If any sister know of anything we can do to help sister in france please post or pm me.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,105484,00.html

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France is a country ruled by Zionists & jews...........they have banned the scarves.......inshallah the ones who made this decison will go to hell

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Originally posted by Shereen

France is a country ruled by Zionists & jews...........they have banned the scarves.......inshallah the ones who made this decison will go to hell

buwahahhaa.....

They ban headscarves, to keep with their idea of banning all religious symbols in school, so they are now zionists and jews?

Get over it, it's not an attack on islam, but on all religions. In the west, Christianity has been feeling this sort of pressure for half a decade. Removal of Creationism as a theory, removal of voluntary prayer at any school events, removal of anything to do with any religion in any public place.

Islam, welcome to what the rest of the religions have been delaing with. It's wrong then, it's wrong now, but it isn't another 'jew conspiracy' wink.gif

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Bismillah

Are the wearing of crosses and crucifizes also banned? Yarmulkes allowed also? To me this would point out bias or an attempt at true secularism.

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Originally posted by phatmonky

removal of voluntary prayer at any school events, removal of anything to do with any religion in any public place.  

I'm confused at what you are talking about. I don't care what religion you come from, you can pray at anytime, anywhere. I do not want to argue this point, don't get me wrong, but this has not been my experiance. Certainly we do not need government permission to say a prayer.

Regarding the headscarves, I believe personally that if Catholic nuns are allowed to wear their 'headgear' the Muslim women should be extended the same courtesy.

Take care,

~Jennfier

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Bismillah

No. You do not seem to undestand the FACT that Sunni and Shia are very different in many many ways. I have no knowledge about Shia to where I would feel any level of comfort discussing their methods and beliefs. I also do not approve of Shia and Sunni being lumped together as the same type of Islam. That is why I have not responded. I have tried to express this before and I guess was unsucessful in putting it in a manner in which you would understand how I feel. Allah Forgive me.

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Excuse me but i FAIL to understnd HOW can bnning of religious signs or a piece of cloth can be a TROUBLE for France??? If it wants to be a secular country so be it, instead it shuld allow ANY kind of religious or cultural values...............It is ironic that a SECULAR country is banning religious signs & codes!!!!

Iam sorry but this MOSTLY effects Muslims because even Christian women are also advised in BIBLE to cover their head, they Don't & only Nuns do. So the Muslim women who are strong in their faith won't be able to wear their IDENTITY i.e their Head scarf!!!!!!!!

Keep in mind that other religious stuff e.g banning crossed signs is a MERE attept compared to head scarves........So INDEED it's a PLANNED scheme by Freanch authorities.

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Originally posted by Shereen

Keep in mind that other religious stuff e.g banning crossed signs is a MERE attept compared to head scarves........So INDEED it's a PLANNED scheme by Freanch authorities.

Why don't you explain this one - Somehow muslim women feel more strongly about their head scarves than other religious people feel about their respective symbols??

Give me a break.

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Originally posted by phatmonky

Why don't you explain this one - Somehow muslim women feel more strongly about their head scarves than other religious people feel about their respective symbols??

I think that probably is very true for women who cover. There is a big difference between the display of a religious icon such as a cross, and an attempted ban which would deny the womens right to protect her own modesty.

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Originally posted by SisterJennifer

I think that probably is very true for women who cover.  There is a big difference between the display of a religious icon such as a cross, and an attempted ban which would deny the womens right to protect her own modesty.

I find it quite presumptiuous to discount others religious views so quickly, because you feel so strongly in yours.

I don't have any more of a point, simply I disagree smile.gif

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Bismillah

The hijab is not a religious symbol as the west sees it like a cross. It is a method that muslim women use to protect their modesty. For some removing the hijab in front of nonpermissible men is like some Western women removing their tops in public. You may find this absurb but remember that you were not brought with the level of modesty. Try wearing the other person's shoes... or head scarf if you will.

Peace

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Originally posted by Dan

Bismillah

The hijab is not a religious symbol as the west sees it like a cross.  It is a method that muslim women use to protect their modesty.  For some removing the hijab in front of nonpermissible men is like some Western women removing their tops in public.  You may find this absurb but remember that you were not brought with the level of modesty.  Try wearing the other person's shoes... or head scarf if you will.  

Peace

I understand this, and at no time have I said that the scarve removal was LESS important than someone wearing another religion's symbol. I'm simply saying that many feel just as offended when told they cannot show symbols of their religion, and it is highly assumptive for anyone to say otherwise - like you said, try wearing another person's shoes. The law simply isn't just an attack on islam, that's all I'm getting at. It's an attack on all religions, but that's what you get in a many of the liberal socialized countries of Europe. I expect to see germany follow this trend in the near future.

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Muslim Women shouldnt be forced to deviate away from their religious duties and no matter what the europeans do, allah knows best and will reward those who stand up to the kaafir institutions of europe and its ally >>>>>>the ugly duckling USA!.rolleyes.gif

I pray that Allah causes them down-fall. All of the enemies of islam!!

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Originally posted by phatmonky

Why don't you explain this one - Somehow muslim women feel more strongly about their head scarves than other religious people feel about their respective symbols??

Give me a break.

Ok u want me to talk about it ok here you go. This is Ironic that Christian women are also ORDERED to cover their heads & yet VERY few of them only nuns do it.......here's the evidence from the Bible:) .

"And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head...If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head" 1 Corinthians 11:3-6

& if Muslim women are Strong in their Faith.....is that our CRIME to be strong in religion??? Why is West so concearned about Muslims women wearing scarves when thousands of their children have been sexually abused by their Father's of the Churches..........???

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