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Salam everyone u probably have noticed i havent been on here for a while.

I am going though a few problems at the moment and some disagrements with sum ppl. I was wondering abt wot i am meant to do if u dnt agree with sum1 in ur family with a certain issue related to Islam. The way its been put to me is that i have to follow wot i have been taught even though it may be wrong. Me and other ppl have tried to explain to others who r doing wrong things y it is wrong. I dnt really wnt to go into any details but they still dnt seem to listen. Instead i have jst been kinda given abuse in the way that im tld im wron even though i knw i mite be rite. Its kinds hard to explain but has ne1 gt any advice on wot i can do.

Inshallah i will do my best to get onto track again an be bk at the forum on a regular basis.

Can u pls make dua for me that i get through these problems and that Allah shows me and others the rite path to Islam.

Ameen

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Assalamo Alikom Sister Amma,

Inshaa Allah i will keep you in my Du'aa. and am sorry sister i dont know how to help you since i dont understand what's wrong excactly. but anyway i advise you to make ISTEKHARAH prayer and ask Allah for what you need. and Inshaa Allah he will show you the solution.

please let us know if you need anything.

May Allah always be with you. Ameen.

All the best

Salam

wel_mel

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as salam alykom dearest amma

as far as I understood, is that some one is doing somethign wrong and u r trying to explain this according to Quran and sunnha and all what u get is abuse. What did all the Prophets and messengers got dear. If u dont go through this u will be missing something from the heritage of Prophets. So first u must praise Allah that He allowed u to take over His message.

Now as how to handle, we all go through this and it is mostly hardest when it involves family members. U just keep on saying what pleases Allah in a very nice way, keep in mind that one who is doing wrong is probably aware of this but feeling hard to stop, so u r just facing him with his mistakes, so keep this in mind, usually he will be aggressive, u be patient, remember u r doing this to Allah and waiting for no human reward. Keep in mind that the road of dawa`a is not carpeted with flowers. Again be patient, understanding, not sarcastic, never moke one who is committing a sin for we can never guarantee that we won't do it. Alway bring Allah's mercy and grace and that Allah is just waiting for us to repent. Also bring the point that we are all vulnerable to sins and how we must fight shaytan. Do it in a very understanding and sympathitic manner. the wong does is certainly aware and needs help, if Allah can understand and treats us mercifullly, then we must.

Now most important is always before talking to the person read Ayatulkorsi to protect both of u from shaytan and of course much dua for the person to distinguish between right and wrong clearly.

I am already keeping u in my dua of course.

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Asalam~O~Alykum

I totally agree with sister Muslimah. U should hold on and keep on fighting for what the Quran and the Sunnah said and ask us to do. Inshllah if u keep on talking to this person in a nice way and not arguing inshallah everything will turn fine. Also pray 4 them a lot and don't forget the dua'a an istekarah. That's the most important things to do. Inshallah Allah will never leave u alone.

Salam~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Masriahmuslimah

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Jazakallah all for ur help. Inshallah i will do everything u have told me too.

I know that its going to tk a very long time for these ppl to come to terms with wot is true inshallah i will try to be pateint. But i need to ask wot if the things they r doing wrong are held in your house. I mean one of the things i have disagreed with members of my family is sumthing called kathams. It hasnt been mentioned anywhere in the hadith and sunnah. So it confuses me alot when ppl do things which there is no evidence for. If ne1 does knw ne hadith or ayat relating to kathams can u pls tell me.

Well me and sum members of family are told dat we r wrong b.c we dnt belive certain things. Now soon in my house a katham is going to take place wot am i meant to do.

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as salam alykom amma

it is good to see u back, may Allah help us all to be able to attend more to all of our duties.

Now if u explain what exactly is a kathams, I dont think I know what u mean. May be we can help...

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If iam not mistaken then 'Khatams' are when some people come & recite Quran or a certian amount of Quran...........iam not 100% sure but it's sumthing about people comming & reciting Quran smile.gif

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i mean when someone dies {or other accasions} they have these khatams......like all people gather and do stuff

And may Allah save us from this evil.

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As salaam alaikum wa rahmatullah wa barakahtuhu

i think sister amma may be refering to the practice of Darood Sharif khatams which many some muslims believe in.....they recite darood sharif and make dua over food to Allah to grant them what they wish for....

from my understand this has no evidence and is a innervation....there is no evidence from the quran or sunnah that this should or was done by the prophet mohammad PBUH.

for the people who do do such practices and there wishes do come true....well put yourself on the wrong path of islam and dont seek the truth and even when the truth is sent to you and you dont obey, Allah is surely to keep you on that wrong path.

sister amma try and pray salah as much as you can and ask Allah to give you strength, stand strong in what you believe to be true, when we stand infront of our Lord it is are own deeds we account for, Paradise is surly below our mothers feet....and we should obey our perents....but if we are sure to know they go against islam then help to teach them the correct path.....we can only disobey our perents if they go agaisnt islam.

I love you for the sake of Allah....your always in my dua's InshAllah.

I hope what i have written brings you some comfort...there are many of us fighting to keep islam pure...have strength....

Sister Star

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Mash aAllah Star, I think she made a good explanation without accusing any special race of following bida`a

amma just focus on dua for all Muslims to see the correct path, struggle hard, the road of da`wa is not carpeted with flowers.

May Allah help us, u, all Muslims to see the correct as correct and follow, and see the wrong as wrong and avoid

ameen

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Salaamu Alaykum,

yeah sister I can see how you feel about that happening in your house and although this is not the best practice. My family would not do khatmal Qur'aan but we have been invited to a couple for people getting a new house or getting a new business and they have these gatherings for people to come and read Qur'aan and then pray for the bussiness or house. If you study Islaamic studies and shareeah( a family member of mine did), there is some evidence that this is okay, to do khatmal Qur'aan because if you read Qur'aan in your dua's, it has a more chance of being accepted and in Sayyid Sabiq's book fiqhussunnah it is okay.

I dont personally do it, I have gone to gatherings and maybe read some Qur'aan but wiht the intention for myself and I just make dua' for the host's business, house, and even their loved one's who passed away. The stronger opinion(according to minhaaj followers) is that the Qur'aan reading is really for you and does not benefit the dead, so you can read it for yourself or you can read it in your dua' so your dua' is accepted.

Sister Amma, please dont fight your family over this issue, they are simply following another opinion, even if it is not that strong and you think you are right. Don't be rigid as long as they are not doing outright shirk or kufr. There are so many religious people I have come across that are rigid in some things and strict but are the most racist Muslims I have seen. So you have to keep things in prespective and not look down upon others because of their understanding and always consider the possiblity that maybe you could be wrong or both could be right.

Hope this helps.

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Originally posted by Muslimah

Mash aAllah Star, I think she made a good explanation without accusing any special race of following bida`a

amma just focus on dua for all Muslims to see the correct path, struggle hard, the road of da`wa is not carpeted with flowers.

May Allah help us, u, all Muslims to see the correct as correct and follow, and see the wrong as wrong and avoid

ameen

Yeah some people do bidahs( all different races of Muslim I have seen doing khatams, including arabs) but others committ outright sin, you are from Egypt, have you watched the haraam stuff egyptian people do on television, what excuses them, thier Arabness(the reason why I know is because my neighbor invited me over and she had her television on)? IT is as much a sin as any bida'ah.

Dont get me wrong, I was a salafee and perhaps am now as well but the arrogance and conceitedness of the arabs have really made me cynical of the salafees in general.

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Assalam aleikum

Dont get me wrong, I was a salafee and perhaps am now as well but the arrogance and conceitedness of the arabs have really made me cynical of the salafees in general.

SubhanAllah stop this kind of negative generalization, this is the second time you have done so. Its not good ukhti. We as Muslims should have a good opinion of each other.

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Dont pick and choose which Shirk, Kufr or Bidah you want to condemn.

Condemn it ALL.............

I see many Muslims picking and choosing when it suits them, such is the level of ignorance spreading among the Ummah.

We know we aint perfect but when we see an evil we must expose it and refute it so that other muslims may be warned of it and its reality.

And Allah knows best.

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Salam

yeh i knw that there may be sum good in Kathams but sum ppl do sin in wt they do and the purpose of it aswell.

I knw wt u have said is rite Sabiqoon but wot is the evidence od kathams if u dnt mind me asking. I knw dat theres nutin wrong in readind the quran but wot ppl wnt from doing a katham. People do kathams for all sorts of reasons e.g like say if sum1 isnt married in thier family to get married or for gtin or achivein sumthn.

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