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#21

Salam All


There is nothing in the Quran that hint to us that Allah has a limited number of 99 names, Allah only mentioned to us a few from His names in the Quran and ordered us to call Him with any of these Husnna names.


Now, before you come attacking me and possibly accuse me of Kufr, here it is from an Arab TV, Al Qahira Al Yawm, sorry it is in Arabic, in that video, an arab researcher came forward and stated that about 20 names of those 99 names as we know them for 1400 years are wrong, he went through and stuided all the possible hadith (heresy) and came up with another 99 names, ironically Al Azhar approved his research, this concluded that the majority of the Muslims are 100% confused, you will even hear the new song they made using the new names:


http://free-islam.com/full/islam/asma2_all..._sa7ee7a_p2.wmv


I guess the researcher was motivated by the heresay that I call "one of the free tickets to heaven", you know if you manage to find those alleged 99 names you will earn a free ticket to heaven, so because it was alleged that those 99 names are already found for hundreds of years, so to give it a bit of merit, he changed 20 of them, therefore he is the only one now who earned that ticket, the previos ones were wrong and there should be no new ones because that researcher already found them, sounds too funny to me if you ask me


Salam all

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#22
Thanks dan , and continu please ...
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#23

Bismillah


I echo hassan's call, calling Dan to continue...

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#24

Bismillah


Sobhan Allah Ahmad, each time I read a post, you project quite a level of confusion. Ahmad, the hadeeth speaking about one who (Ahsaha) meaning identify the names, shall be admited to Jannah, does not mean one who finds them. Because many of them are already mentioned in Quran, including the widely common names we are all familiar with.


For example, Dhul A`rsh almajeed, Qabele Tawb, DhiTawl (all mentioned in the onset of Surat Ghafer). There are many other that are included in Quran, it is for us to see them and realise them, understand them. May be it is a good idea if u think to yourself what is the purpose of those Names and Attributes. If u dont reply to me Insh a Allah I will attepmt to explain.




Quote:Salam All
There is nothing in the Quran that hint to us that Allah has a limited number of 99 names, Allah only mentioned to us a few from His names in the Quran and ordered us to call Him with any of these Husnna names.


Now, before you come attacking me and possibly accuse me of Kufr, here it is from an Arab TV, Al Qahira Al Yawm, sorry it is in Arabic, in that video, an arab researcher came forward and stated that about 20 names of those 99 names as we know them for 1400 years are wrong, he went through and stuided all the possible hadith (heresy) and came up with another 99 names, ironically Al Azhar approved his research, this concluded that the majority of the Muslims are 100% confused, you will even hear the new song they made using the new names:


http://free-islam.com/full/islam/asma2_all..._sa7ee7a_p2.wmv


I guess the researcher was motivated by the heresay that I call "one of the free tickets to heaven", you know if you manage to find those alleged 99 names you will earn a free ticket to heaven, so because it was alleged that those 99 names are already found for hundreds of years, so to give it a bit of merit, he changed 20 of them, therefore he is the only one now who earned that ticket, the previos ones were wrong and there should be no new ones because that researcher already found them, sounds too funny to me if you ask me


Salam all
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#25

Bismillah


Well, so long as the point was raised, it has to be addressed and cleared for whowever comes to this thread, will find the reply Insh a Allah.


First to clear this point, we need to understand what exactly the hadeeth mean.


The hadeeth say:


Abu Huraira reported that the Messenger of Allah said, "Allah has ninety-nine names, one hundred less one. Whoever ahsaha will enter Paradise. (Recorded by al-Bukhari and Muslim)


Please note that in this hadeeth, the translator did not even attempt to translate the word ahsaha.


Let us compare this word with a corresponding same working in Quran and see what exactly does it mean, does it mean like Ahmad is confused, and means to memorise them or otherwise.


In Surat Mariam Allah Used ahsahum


"Verily, He knows each one of them, and has counted them a full counting." (Quran 19:94).


In this noble Ayah, Allah Used Ahsahum wa a`dahum=identified and counted. Which clearly indicates that to indentify something is totally different from counting them and memorising them.


The hadeeth, although a noteworthy point, is that there is another narration that list the 99 names, and this hadeeth is classified as week by many scholars, thus, we will focus on the above mentioned narration.


Ahsahum (identified them, knew them, understood them, recognised them) is a word that needs insightful understanding.


To identify Allah's names and attributes, is to fully comprehend them, to attempt to know Allah The Creator, we can only Know Allah thru understanding and identifying Allah's Names and Attributes.


For example, One of Allah's Names that Dan listed below is Ajjabar.


Ajjbar, actually, can be interpreted in two ways, one is The Compeller, One Who compels others to do what the compeller wants and wills and the other meaning is one who mends.


In some cases, people might come and say, how come Allah Is a compeller? because in Arabic the word can also give the meaning of oppresor. Well, you tell them, if there is not supreme being who can oppress and compel others, who shall put an end to tyrants when they exceed limits and hard human beings. Remember, we are all human beings, thus, if a human being is granted supreior power over others and abuses this power, there must be another whom we can seek refuge to and ask for assistance. This being must be a compellor in an incomparable manner.


But at the same time, the compellor is also One Who mends, mends everything, a broken heart, ...etc.


Another example is Al A`fou: One Who Pardons, we must know that if the Creator Can Pardon, we need to do the same. WE need to learn how to develop morale derived from those names and attributes. this is what identifying them (ahsahum) means.


And this is just one example, I dont want to elaborate, because my dear brother Dan Mash a Allah is already doing this.


The end result is, one who strives to identify those names which are also scattered within the texture of Quran here and there, and sometimes people just read thru them and not realise them, but one who realises them, strives to understand them, comprehend them, develop a full sense as much as possible, live with them. shall be destined to Jannah.

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#26

Bismillah


More on the meaning of ahsahum, it is a requirement for each one of us to ponder and look around trying to identify how Allah's Names and Attribute manifest. For example, for those who Alhamdulelah performed Haj, they will clearly realise how Allah as Al Baset, One Who Expands, manifest to expand the limited space of land to accomodate almost 3 million people. When they depart and you look around, u feel amazed how this limited area accomodated all of them But Al Baset Is working. When you have a lot of work, family responsibilities, other obligations, you will need to seek Assistance of Al Baset to expand your time, effort and ability to be able to fulfill all of those obligations. Concurrently, you will need Al Qabed, One Who Contracts, to contract those burdens. You will also need Al Moeen, One Who Assists, to support your efforts and makes them successul. This is what Ahsahum mean. It is for the devotee to live within those names and attributes with full conviction that they are functional throughout time and till the day after. You need to ponder when you see people going up and then brought down and say Sobhan Al Arrafi Alkhafed, the One Who Elevates and One Who Brings down. To See Alkhalaq, One Who Procreates just by looking to a butterfly. This is what ahsahum means. It does not help to fully memorise them by heart, then loose the in depth meaning, not realising them, observing them, adopting them..etc. Our Deen is reasoning based and oriented. This is what the hadeeth is all about. But it is only for those who have hearts that can understand.


wallahu a`lam.

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#27

Bismillah


More on the meaning of ahsahum, it is a requirement for each one of us to ponder and look around trying to identify how Allah's Names and Attribute manifest. For example, for those who Alhamdulelah performed Haj, they will clearly realise how Allah as Al Baset, One Who Expands, manifest to expand the limited space of land to accomodate almost 3 million people. When they depart and you look around, u feel amazed how this limited area accomodated all of them But Al Baset Is working. When you have a lot of work, family responsibilities, other obligations, you will need to seek Assistance of Al Baset to expand your time, effort and ability to be able to fulfill all of those obligations. Concurrently, you will need Al Qabed, One Who Contracts, to contract those burdens. You will also need Al Moeen, One Who Assists, to support your efforts and makes them successul. This is what Ahsahum mean. It is for the devotee to live within those names and attributes with full conviction that they are functional throughout time and till the day after. You need to ponder when you see people going up and then brought down and say Sobhan Al Arrafi Alkhafed, the One Who Elevates and One Who Brings down. To See Alkhalaq, One Who Procreates just by looking to a butterfly. This is what ahsahum means. It does not help to fully memorise them by heart, then loose the in depth meaning, not realising them, observing them, adopting them..etc. Our Deen is reasoning based and oriented. This is what the hadeeth is all about. But it is only for those who have hearts that can understand.


wallahu a`lam.

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#28

Bismillah


More on the meaning of ahsahum, it is a requirement for each one of us to ponder and look around trying to identify how Allah's Names and Attribute manifest. For example, for those who Alhamdulelah performed Haj, they will clearly realise how Allah as Al Baset, One Who Expands, manifest to expand the limited space of land to accomodate almost 3 million people. When they depart and you look around, u feel amazed how this limited area accomodated all of them But Al Baset Is working. When you have a lot of work, family responsibilities, other obligations, you will need to seek Assistance of Al Baset to expand your time, effort and ability to be able to fulfill all of those obligations. Concurrently, you will need Al Qabed, One Who Contracts, to contract those burdens. You will also need Al Moeen, One Who Assists, to support your efforts and makes them successul. This is what Ahsahum mean. It is for the devotee to live within those names and attributes with full conviction that they are functional throughout time and till the day after. You need to ponder when you see people going up and then brought down and say Sobhan Al Arrafi Alkhafed, the One Who Elevates and One Who Brings down. To See Alkhalaq, One Who Procreates just by looking to a butterfly. This is what ahsahum means. It does not help to fully memorise them by heart, then loose the in depth meaning, not realising them, observing them, adopting them..etc. Our Deen is reasoning based and oriented. This is what the hadeeth is all about. But it is only for those who have hearts that can understand.


wallahu a`lam.

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#29

Bismillah


More on the meaning of ahsahum, it is a requirement for each one of us to ponder and look around trying to identify how Allah's Names and Attribute manifest. For example, for those who Alhamdulelah performed Haj, they will clearly realise how Allah as Al Baset, One Who Expands, manifest to expand the limited space of land to accomodate almost 3 million people. When they depart and you look around, u feel amazed how this limited area accomodated all of them But Al Baset Is working. When you have a lot of work, family responsibilities, other obligations, you will need to seek Assistance of Al Baset to expand your time, effort and ability to be able to fulfill all of those obligations. Concurrently, you will need Al Qabed, One Who Contracts, to contract those burdens. You will also need Al Moeen, One Who Assists, to support your efforts and makes them successul. This is what Ahsahum mean. It is for the devotee to live within those names and attributes with full conviction that they are functional throughout time and till the day after. You need to ponder when you see people going up and then brought down and say Sobhan Al Arrafi Alkhafed, the One Who Elevates and One Who Brings down. To See Alkhalaq, One Who Procreates just by looking to a butterfly. This is what ahsahum means. It does not help to fully memorise them by heart, then loose the in depth meaning, not realising them, observing them, adopting them..etc. Our Deen is reasoning based and oriented. This is what the hadeeth is all about. But it is only for those who have hearts that can understand.


wallahu a`lam.

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